Bava Kamma 74

Chapter 74

א שור שור ושור חמור וגמל מהו
1 one ox, a [second] ox, and a [third] ox, an ass, and a camel, what is the legal position? Shall the last ox be counted together with the [first two] oxen, in which case the animal that gored will still be <i>Mu'ad</i> only to oxen whereas to any other species it will not be considered <i>Mu'ad</i>, or shall perhaps the last ox be counted together with the ass and camel, so that the animal that gored will become <i>Mu'ad</i> to all species [of beasts]? [Again,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Assuming that in the previous case we decide that the last ox will be counted with the first two oxen. ');"><sup>1</sup></span>
ב האי שור בתרא בתר שוורים שדינן. ליה ואכתי לשוורים הוא דאייעד למידי אחרינא לא אייעד או דילמא האי שור בתרא בתר חמור וגמל שדינן ליה ואייעד ליה לכולהו מיני
2 where an animal has successively gored] an ass, a camel, an ox, another ox, and a [third] ox, what is the legal position? Shall the first ox be counted together with the ass and camel, so that the animal that gored will become <i>Mu'ad</i> to all species [of beasts], or shall it perhaps [rather] be counted together with the [other] oxen, in which case it will still be <i>Mu'ad</i> only to oxen, but not <i>Mu'ad</i> to any other species [of beasts]? [Again, where the consecutive gorings took place on] one Sabbath, [the next] Sabbath and [the third] Sabbath, and then on the [subsequent] Sunday and Monday, what is the legal position? Shall the last Sabbath be counted together with the [first two] Sabbaths, in which case the ox that gored would still be <i>Mu'ad</i> only for Sabbaths, whereas in respect of damage done on week days it would not yet be considered <i>mu'ad</i>, or shall it perhaps be counted together with Sunday and Monday and thus become <i>Mu'ad</i> in respect of all the days [of the week]? [Again, where the consecutive gorings took place on] a Thursday, the eve of Sabbath and the Sabbath, then on [the next] Sabbath and [the third] Sabbath, what is the legal position? Shall the first Sabbath be counted together with Thursday and the eve of Sabbath and the goring ox thus become <i>mu'ad</i> for all days, or shall perhaps the first Sabbath be counted together with the subsequent Sabbaths, in which case the goring ox would become <i>mu'ad</i> only for Sabbaths? — These questions must stand over.
ג חמור וגמל שור שור ושור מהו האי שור קמא בתר חמור וגמל שדינן ליה ואייעד ליה לכולהו מיני או דילמא בתר שוורים שדינן ליה ואכתי לשוורים הוא דאייעד למינא אחרינא לא אייעד
3 If [an ox has] gored an ox on the fifteenth day of a particular month, and [another ox] on the sixteenth day of the next month, and [a third ox] on the seventeenth day of the third month, there would he a difference of opinion between Rab and Samuel.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' According to Rab it would become Mu'ad to gore every month by missing a day, so that if in the fourth month it gores on the eighteenth day, the compensation would have to be in full, whereas according to Samuel the compensation would still be a half, as the animal could not become Mu'ad until the act of missing a day is repeated three times, so that full compensation would begin with the goring on the nineteenth day of the fifth month. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ד שבת שבת ושבת אחד בשבת ושני בשבת מהו הא שבת בתרייתא בתר שבת הוא דשדינן ליה ואכתי לשבת הוא דאייעד לימות החול לא אייעד או דילמא בתר אחד בשבת ושני בשבת שדינן ליה ואייעד ליה לכולי יומא
4 For it was stated:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Nid. 67a. ');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ה ה' בשבת וערב שבת ושבת שבת ושבת מהו הא שבת קמייתא בתר ה' בשבת וע"ש שדינן ליה ואייעד לכולהו יומי או דילמא הא שבת קמייתא בתר שבתות הוא דשדינן ליה ולשבתות הוא דאייעד
5 If the symptom of menstruation has once been noticed on the fifteenth day of a particular month, [then] on the sixteenth day of the next month, and [then] on the seventeenth day of the third month, Rab maintained that a periodical recurrence<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [MS.M. adds 'in skipping', cf. Rashi.] ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ו תיקו:
6 has thereby been established,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And the menstruation could accordingly be expected on the eighteenth day of the fourth month. ');"><sup>5</sup></span>
ז נגח שור יום ט"ו בחודש זה ויום ט"ז בחודש זה ויום י"ז בחודש זה פלוגתא דרב ושמואל
7 whereas Samuel said [that this periodicity is not established] until the skipping is repeated [yet] a third time.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., until in the fourth month the menstruation recurs on the eighteenth day, in which case it would be expected on the nineteenth day of the fifth month, ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ח דאתמר ראתה יום ט"ו בחדש זה ויום ט"ז בחדש זה ויום י"ז בחדש זה רב אמר קבעה לה וסת ושמואל אמר עד שתשלש בדילוג
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ט אמר רבא שמע קול שופר ונגח קול שופר ונגח קול שופר ונגח נעשה מועד לשופרות
9 Raba said: Where an ox upon hearing the sound of a trumpet gores and upon hearing [again] the sound of a trumpet gores [a second time], and upon hearing [again] the sound of a trumpet gores [a third time], the ox will become <i>Mu'ad</i> with reference to the hearing of the sound of trumpets. Is not this self-evident? — You might have supposed that [the goring at] the first [hearing of the sound of the] trumpet [should not be taken into account as it] might have been due merely to the sudden fright that came over the ox.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So that full compensation should begin with the fifth occasion. ');"><sup>7</sup></span>
י פשיטא מהו דתימא הך שופר קמא סיוטא בעלמא הוא דנקטיה קמ"ל:
10 We are therefore told [that it would be taken into account].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And full liability will commence with the fourth goring at the sound of a trumpet. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
יא <big><strong>מתני׳</strong></big> שור של ישראל שנגח שור של הקדש ושל הקדש שנגח לשור של הדיוט פטור שנאמר (שמות כא, לה) שור רעהו ולא שור של הקדש
11 &nbsp; &nbsp; <b><i>MISHNAH</i></b>. IN THE CASE OF PRIVATE OWNER'S<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [Mishnah text: 'of an Israelite'.] ');"><sup>9</sup></span>
יב שור של ישראל שנגח לשור של כנעני פטור ושל כנעני שנגח לשור של ישראל בין תם בין מועד משלם נזק שלם:
12 CATTLE<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'ox'. ');"><sup>10</sup></span>
יג <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> מתניתין דלא כר"ש בן מנסיא דתניא שור של הדיוט שנגח שור של הקדש ושל הקדש שנגח שור של הדיוט פטור שנאמר שור רעהו ולא שור של הקדש ר"ש בן מנסיא אומר שור של הקדש שנגח שור של הדיוט פטור ושל הדיוט שנגח שור של הקדש בין תם בין מועד משלם נזק שלם
13 GORING AN OX CONSECRATED TO THE TEMPLE, OR CONSECRATED CATTLE GORING A PRIVATE OX, THERE IS NO LIABILITY, FOR IT IS STATED: THE OX OF HIS NEIGHBOUR,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Ex. XXI, 35. ');"><sup>11</sup></span>
יד אמרי מאי קא סבר ר"ש אי רעהו דוקא אפילו של הדיוט שנגח של הקדש ליפטר ואי רעהו לאו דוקא אפילו דהקדש נמי כי נגח דהדיוט ליחייב
14 NOT [THAT IS TO SAY] AN OX CONSECRATED TO THE TEMPLE. <font>WHERE AN OX BELONGING TO AN ISRAELITE HAS GORED AN OX BELONGING TO A CANAANITE, THERE IS NO LIABILITY</font>,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As Canaanites did not recognise the laws of social justice, they did not impose any liability for damage done by cattle. They could consequently not claim to be protected by a law they neither recognised nor respected, cf. J. T. a.l. and Maim. Yad, Niz. Mam. VIII, 5. [In ancient Israel as in the modern state the legislation regulating the protection of life and property of the stranger was, as Guttmann. M. (HUCA. III 1 ff.) has shown, on the basis of reciprocity. Where such reciprocity was not recognised, the stranger could not claim to enjoy the same protection of the law as the citizen.] ');"><sup>12</sup></span>
טו וכי תימא לעולם קסבר רעהו דוקא ומיהו דהדיוט כי נגח דהקדש היינו טעמא דמיחייב משום דקא מייתי ליה מקל וחומר דהדיוט ומה הדיוט שנגח של הדיוט חייב כי נגח דהקדש לא כל שכן דמיחייב
15 WHEREAS WHERE AN OX BELONGING TO A <font>CANAANITE</font> GORES AN OX BELONGING TO AN ISRAELITE, WHETHER WHILE <i>TAM</i> OR <i>MU'AD</i>,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., the ox that did the damage. ');"><sup>13</sup></span>
טז דיו לבא מן הדין להיות כנדון מה להלן תם חצי נזק הכא נמי חצי נזק
16 THE COMPENSATION IS TO BE MADE IN FULL.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So that they should guard their cattle from doing damage. (Maim. loc. cit.) ');"><sup>14</sup></span>
יז אלא אמר ריש לקיש הכל היו בכלל נזק שלם כשפרט לך הכתוב רעהו גבי תם רעהו הוא דתם משלם חצי נזק מכלל דהקדש בין תם בין מועד משלם נזק שלם
17 <b><i>GEMARA</i></b>. The [ruling in the] Mishnah is not in accordance with [the view of] R. Simeon b. Menasya; for it was taught: Where a private ox has gored consecrated cattle or where consecrated cattle has gored a private ox, there is not liability, as it is stated: The ox of his neighbour,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. p. 211, n. 5. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> not [that is to say] an ox consecrated to the Temple. R. Simeon b. Menasya, however, says: Where consecrated cattle has gored a private ox there is no liability, but if a private ox has gored consecrated cattle, whether while <i>Tam</i> or <i>mu'ad</i>, payment is to be made for full damage.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. supra p. 23. ');"><sup>16</sup></span> I might ask, what was the principle adopted by R. Simeon? If the implication of 'his neighbour'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. p. 211, n. 5. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> has to be insisted upon,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' To mean the ox of his peer, of his equal. [This would not exclude Gentiles in general as the term [H], his neighbour applies also to them (cf. Ex. XI, 2); cf. next page.] ');"><sup>17</sup></span> why then even in the case of a private ox goring consecrated cattle should there not be exemption? If on the other hand the implication of 'his neighbour' has not to be insisted upon, why then in the case of consecrated cattle goring a private ox should there also not be liability? If, however, you argue that he<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Simeon ');"><sup>18</sup></span> does in fact maintain that the implication of 'his neighbour' has to be insisted upon, yet where a private ox has gored consecrated cattle there is a special reason for liability inferred by means of an <i>a fortiori</i> argument from the case of private cattle [as follows]: If where a private ox has gored private cattle there is liability, should not there be all the more liability where it has gored consecrated cattle? Why then [did he] not employ the principle of Dayyo<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. supra p. 126. ');"><sup>19</sup></span> [i.e. that it was sufficient] that the object<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Viz. consecrated cattle. ');"><sup>20</sup></span> to which the inference is made should be on the same footing as the object from which it was made?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Viz. private cattle. ');"><sup>21</sup></span> And since <i>Tam</i> involves there the payment of half damages, [why then should it not] here also involve the payment of half damages [only]? — Resh Lakish therefore said: Originally all cases came under the law of full compensation;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As in the case of mu'ad where in contradistinction to Tam no mention was made of 'his neighbour': cf. Ex. XXI, 36. ');"><sup>22</sup></span> when Scripture therefore particularised 'his neighbour' in the case of <i>Tam</i>, it meant that it was only where damage had been done to a neighbour that <i>Tam</i> would involve half damages [only], thus implying that where the damage had been done to consecrated property, whether by <i>Tam</i> or <i>Mu'ad</i>, the compensation must be in full;